Website founded by Milan Velimirović in 2006 18:02 UTC ISC 2024      Headlines    Forum*    Fellows    Members    DL Archive    Links Username: Password: Remember me   Forgot your password? Click here! SIGN IN to create your account if you don't already have one. CHESS SOLVING Tournaments Rating lists 1-Oct-2024 B P C F		MatPlus.Net Forum General twomover : tries ?!   You can only view this page! Page: [Previous] [Next] 1 2 (21) Posted by Hauke Reddmann [Monday, May 5, 2014 11:10] @Arno: Very neat that there are no double refutations (and BTW the matrix you stole from me I stole from Sir Jeremy Morse, so rather credit him :-) BTW, I also made a "21" (with the trick that e.p. counts separate) but your position is far superior. Hauke   (Read Only) pid=12061 (22) Posted by Jacques Rotenberg [Monday, May 5, 2014 12:57] 22! (= 15+9 ) 2#   (Read Only) pid=12062 (23) Posted by Jacques Rotenberg [Monday, May 5, 2014 13:09] But the position of Arno has another positive aspect : all the pieces are "needed" for the actual play, it means that any piece you withdraw will make the problem incorrect. It is not the case here.   (Read Only) pid=12063 (24) Posted by Kevin Begley [Monday, May 5, 2014 17:18]; edited by Kevin Begley [14-05-06] I managed more than 22, based upon the same matrix. I'll post it later, if nobody does better (and Jacques doesn't find an equivalent). I think much more may be possible, but it seems to become an exercise of proving retro legality. edit: computer problems... don't hold me to 23, as i cannot verify now.   (Read Only) pid=12064 (25) Posted by seetharaman kalyan [Tuesday, May 6, 2014 20:17]; edited by seetharaman kalyan [14-05-06] @ Geir Sune Tallaksen Østmoe <<<Oh, wait... with Nb1, 1.Nc3 would not even be a try, since Black also has 1...Rh6! >>>> Sorry... I missed this simple defect !   (Read Only) pid=12065 (26) Posted by Hauke Reddmann [Wednesday, May 7, 2014 11:04] (= 15+9 ) This, for the record (pun unintended) is the "unconditional" record for different refutations (29) by Morse (#212 in his "Tasks&Records"). It will be interesting how high MPF gets with the additional and very demanding condition "any move except the solution is a try" or even "each try has a different refutation" condition. Hauke   (Read Only) pid=12066 (27) Posted by Hauke Reddmann [Saturday, Apr 9, 2022 14:45] Epic bumpage! *Maybe* Kevin can up the record. So that he hasn't to search for the relevant thread for an eternity, I bump it with a nice 2# which also could fit into James' Also Epic 2# From Stalemate Thread. (= 16+7 ) Arsen Dobrila, The Problemist, September 1989 16 unstalemating tries, each piece one! (+4 if counting ep)   (Read Only) pid=22915 No more posts Page: [Previous] [Next] 1 2 MatPlus.Net Forum General twomover : tries ?!