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MatPlus.Net Forum General Motive Inversion outside the s#
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(1) Posted by Hauke Reddmann [Sunday, May 17, 2020 17:07]

Motive Inversion outside the s#

WCCT made me do it :-)

Whether Motive Inversion is possible in the n# depends on
if you declare the black motive as "stalemate" or "figure
X can't move any longer" (the latter clearly being
inverted if a black Kling is used as a black Seeberger).

Some good examples of MI with fairy pieces or conditions?
With no stalemate effects?
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(2) Posted by Hauke Reddmann [Friday, Jul 10, 2020 19:08]

Here is one in the =2.

(= 4+5 )

1.Bf6! (2.Rxd5)
1...d4 (defends by intercepting on the long diagonal, 2.Rxd4??)
2.Rxb3 (uses exactly this as weakness)
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(3) Posted by shankar ram [Saturday, Jul 11, 2020 12:22]

If you consider R# as "outside the s#", then there are many examples.
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(4) Posted by Marjan Kovačević [Saturday, Jul 11, 2020 17:21]

Hauke, are you only about direct play? There are many helpmates with MI effects not related to Kings.
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(5) Posted by Hauke Reddmann [Sunday, Jul 12, 2020 11:00]

Daniel Papack just made one h# in the SCHWALBE, so no,
I don't need an example from this area anymore :-)

One could always argue that motive inversion is more
"convincing" when used as a defense, but in any case,
I'm rather interested in the different *motivations*
that allow a motive inversion.
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