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MatPlus.Net Forum Competitions 5th Azemmour
 
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(21) Posted by Miodrag Mladenović [Wednesday, Jul 5, 2017 22:22]

Not a big problem. I know that even in the pasts there were posts in non English languages but I think there were never so many in a one single post thread. And I am just afraid that if everyone starts writing posts in their own language it will be impossible to follow up on any post because you will have to open post whenever there are changes and then you find out that you cannot understand message.

On the other hand, I know that there is a Russian language forum (unfortunately I cannot participate there since I never learned Russian). I am assuming there are forums in other languages too. But my opinion is that we should try to reduced non English messages to minimum. Unfortunately current GUI requires message to be open to figure out if it's English or some other language.

Or perhaps we should make a rule that non English message posted at this forum should mandatory have some nice problem within the message (diagram). Then at least we should enjoy seeing problem even if we cannot understand message :)!
 
   
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(22) Posted by Jacques Rotenberg [Thursday, Jul 6, 2017 00:06]

@Darko
Sorry for the mistake
@Miodrag
1) the words in French are not really important
(origin an effects of the choice of the name "skewer" or not "skewer")
2) you have many diagrams referring to the theme if you follow the 1st links - post (2) and post (1) and fens on post (4)
3) translation of post (6) :
Any piece white or black can move only once.
After the promotion of a white or black pawn, this one does not move anymore.
4)partial translation of post (10) :
If "skewer" disturbs you too much call it "brochette" (in French) (pronounced as you wish)
This name sounds to me funny
The important point is if people will feel happy when composing on this idea.
5) translation of post (15)
Yes a festive idea (it is what I think)

Now, after so many words and so long a discussion I hope you'll get at least the 1st Prize with the problems you'll send!
 
 
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(23) Posted by Viktoras Paliulionis [Thursday, Jul 6, 2017 00:08]; edited by Viktoras Paliulionis [17-07-06]

The "Brochette" theme was programmed in the Helpmate Analyzer.
Еxample:

http://komtera.lt/helpman/?a=1&fen=2b4s/4P2r/1P2k3/1sq1p1b1/Q3p3/1P6/2pR4/2K5&param=h%232
 
   
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(24) Posted by Abdelaziz Onkoud [Thursday, Jul 6, 2017 00:44]

Many Thanks Viktoras.
 
   
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(25) Posted by Abdelaziz Onkoud [Thursday, Jul 6, 2017 00:46]

Thanks Jacques :-)
 
   
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(26) Posted by Darko Šaljić [Thursday, Jul 6, 2017 09:29]; edited by Darko Šaljić [17-07-06]

Someone reacts as if it is a matter of life and death and immediately afterwards says that it is not a big problem.
It's always the case with all my Serbian and Balkanian friends. So, sorry to you Jacques, you're right, we're all same shit.
 
   
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(27) Posted by Jacques Rotenberg [Thursday, Jul 6, 2017 10:22]

@ Darko
1) Your last post is a bit out of the topic
2) Please, don't translate what I wrote, it was already in English.
3) specially your last words, it is not what I said
4) I hope you too will produce some nice skewer-brochette
5) I hope I'll too do something for this
 
   
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(28) Posted by Abdelaziz Onkoud [Thursday, Jul 6, 2017 11:53]

Only 38 problems show the idea in 2,5-n ( WinChloe Base).
Many thanks to Christian Poisson for programming in h2 and additional research in 2,5-n moves.
I chose for you 2 examples:

Jan HANNELIUS
Schach-Echo 1982-83
Commendation
h‡3 (4+5) C+
2.1.1…
(= 4+5 )

1.Dé3 Rg4 2.Fé5 Cf4+ 3.Ré4 f3‡
1.Dé4 Rg5 2.Fd6 Cç7+ 3.Ré5 f4‡


Olexy BORISENKO
Zadachi i Etyudy 2013
Commendation
h‡3 (3+11) C+
2.1.1…
(= 3+11 )

1.Dé3 R×g6 2.Fd4 Té7 3.Ré4 Df5‡
1.Db4 R×é6 2.Fç3 Tç7 3.Rç4 Dd5‡
 
   
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(29) Posted by Viktoras Paliulionis [Thursday, Jul 6, 2017 12:09]

Abdelaziz,
I don't see the Brochette theme in Winchloe.
 
   
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(30) Posted by Abdelaziz Onkoud [Thursday, Jul 6, 2017 12:13]

In Winchloe , the theme is named Skewer...
 
   
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(31) Posted by Viktoras Paliulionis [Thursday, Jul 6, 2017 15:17]; edited by Viktoras Paliulionis [17-07-06]

Now I found it in WinChloe.

Shashlik (meaning skewered meat) - also possible translation of the theme?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shashlik

Are twins allowed for this theme?
 
   
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(32) Posted by Abdelaziz Onkoud [Thursday, Jul 6, 2017 16:47]

As long as the idea remains festive. I agree :-)
Yes . The twins is allowed.
 
   
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(33) Posted by Viktoras Paliulionis [Thursday, Jul 6, 2017 17:32]

Winchloe shows the Skewer theme in this problem:

Francesco SIMONI
Jubilé N. Macleod - B. Zappas, The Problemist 1988-89
2° Prix
5r2/pp6/3P4/1K1Q2r1/1B1p1k1S/1q1s1p2/p7/2b5
h#2 b) Sb4

a) 1.Da3 Fe1 2.Ce5 Dxd4‡
b) 1.Dc2 Cc6 2.Cc5 Dxf3‡

Is it OK?
 
   
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(34) Posted by Abdelaziz Onkoud [Thursday, Jul 6, 2017 17:56]; edited by Abdelaziz Onkoud [17-07-08]

For Francesco SIMONI ( Jubilé N. Macleod - B. Zappas, The Problemist 1988-89 2° Prix ).
Not thematic.

But for Colin SYDENHAM....That's debatable....
Jubilé P. Ten Cate-90, Probleemblad 1994
3° Prix
(= 6+16 )

h‡2 (6+16) C+
3.1.1.1

1.Rd4 Cç3 2.Cf4 Dé3‡
1.Rf4 Cç5 2.Cç3 Dé3‡
1.Rd3 Cg5 2.Cd4 Dé3‡
 
 
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(35) Posted by seetharaman kalyan [Sunday, Jul 16, 2017 19:50]; edited by seetharaman kalyan [17-07-16]

Twins allowed?

Later noticed that twins are indeed allowed.
 
   
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(36) Posted by Abdelaziz Onkoud [Saturday, Aug 12, 2017 10:35]

Award 5th Azemmour. Wow 106 problems.
Thanks for all participants.

http://www.onkoud.com/IMG/pdf/Award_5th_Azemmour.pdf
 
 
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